10 responses

  1. Franz
    June 14, 2009

    The chinks and the rag heads shouldn’t be allowed to purchase any property on US soil. Period!!
    No foreigners to own farm land should not be allowed. If you think that they don’t know what the hell their doing, just wait and see the rise in food prices in the coming future. They will hold us hostage just as they did with Oil.
    So keep them out of our farm lands and let them eat dirt and sand.
    Since the Arabs don’t have any farm land, why do you think they are investing in ours?! Contact your congress person and let them know that should vote NO!!!! MFKERs

  2. m_astera
    June 14, 2009

    Excellent points, but there are a couple of common fallacies in this writeup. One is that the introduction of GMO crops has increased yield. Not so; as a rule GMO crops produce less. Their advantage is that they are resistant to herbicides, which means weeds can be easily controlled by spraying. That translates into less fuel use, as traditional cultivation and plowing is greatly reduced.

    The second fallacy is that the quality of farmland must necessarily decrease. This only happens when the soil is “mined” for the minerals that in essence equal fertility. Plants need at least seventeen mineral nutrients, humans and animals at least thirty. If the only fertilizers used are those containing Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium (NPK) while the other minerals are only extracted and not replaced, farmland will decline in fertility. Yield may not suffer for a number of years, though the nutritional value of the crops will become less and less. Eventually the soil reserves of the other essential minerals will become so low that insect and disease problems become overwhelming. The solution is simple: replace the missing, mined out minerals. Calcium is a major one, and is much cheaper than NPK.

    Those interested in improving farmland rather than depleting it will find a good overview of the situation from both the conventional and alternative agriculture points of view here: http://www.soilminerals.com/TIS_Ch1.htm

    FULL DISCLOSURE: The link is to a page on my website, and I am selling a book, but there is enough free info there to educate most anyone. Why not buy some worn-out farmland cheap and make it better than new?

  3. Goldstein
    June 15, 2009

    Franz, forget about the ragheads and the chinks. We already own your country. We own the Fed. We own Hollywood and the media. We own your mind, Franz!

    • Conspiracy2Riot
      March 3, 2011

      Ha. How fitting you, named ‘Goldstein’, would reply in such a manner. Goldstein is about as code as ‘banker’ is, if you catch my drift.

      And yes, ‘you people’ DO own our media, finance industry and everything else in America. I for one find it extremely displeasing.

  4. TahoeBilly
    June 15, 2009

    Hey Goldstein,

    Inside every jewish American is a real American trying to get out!

  5. Ehrig
    June 15, 2009

    I did some work studying European Farm policy in grad school. Did you know that European farms have yields between x5 and x20 what American farms get for comparable climate and soil? And the kicker is that this isn’t a good thing. If you look at ag economics, the basic rule for farmers on the world market is that prices drop every year. This drives farmers to always be looking for the most economic and efficient ways to produce food. If your techniques make you a profit for an average season this year, and you don’t improve them, in a decade you’ll be out of business. However, in Europe, they prop up the price of agricultural commodities. This means that farmers can spend a lot more on inputs (chemicals, labor, capital, technology, etc) because they know they’ll make up the money on the back end. This isn’t necessarily a good thing that Europe does this — Europe ends up producing massive surpluses of unwanted ag goods. But it illustrates the idea that if food prices rise, there’s lots and lots of hidden capacity in the system to meet increased demand. If prices rise, it starts making more sense economically to spray for weeds twice instead of once, or to bring in to production more marginal farmland, etc. etc.

  6. Lyle
    June 15, 2009

    @Michael Astera

    I checked out your link and was very impressed, at first. Your description of the New Agriculture was inspiring, until I came to this sentence: “Regardless of their intent, neither the granola heads nor the nature nazis have proven to have much of a clue when it comes to the big picture.”

  7. Cody
    June 16, 2009

    I wouldn’t ban foreigners from buying land or any property in America … I do think the U.S. should establish a policy of reciprocity. We should match land and property purchasing laws of nation of origin (I’d also match import/export regulations). As an American, try to buy land in Mexico. Sell a car to Japan, and they take it apart and put it back together before its allowed to ride on the road (as part of their ‘safety inspection process’). If we can’t buy their land, they can’t buy ours. If they allow citizens to purchase land with undo influence/regulation, we match it.

  8. David
    June 16, 2009

    We may not have much choice in the future about who buys our farmland. If the Fed and the Treasury continue being stupid with their fiscal and monetary policies, the dollar and USTreasuries will become less and less valuable. Our creditors, the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, and other buyers of our garbage paper will start to demand value for value of their “investments.” They could very well show up with an ultimatum: Either hand over Federal land for the mining and farming rights, or they will immediately sell their dollars and bonds, crashing our system totally. It’s not so far-fetched when you really think about it. They could walk away (in a manner of speaking) with interstate highways (now toll roads), idle factories, national parks, farmland, fishing rights on the great lakes and off-shore, lots of things. And all because we wanted to pay the lowest prices every day, and sold our souls to the rest of the world so that we could shop at big box stores for plastic crap that provides no increase in our standard of living.

    Got gold?

  9. Conspiracy2Riot
    March 3, 2011

    We cannot sustain the level of growth we saw in the 20th Century, nor should we try. Color me a Nature Nazi I guess. I think we need to start thinking in terms of globalizing LOCAL economies not producing and selling all over the world. Finite resources are going to dry up and on their way out they’re going to be very expensive. No country is shielded from Climate Change. Nor will they be from food riots. If I’m hungry, I’m going to steal and I’m going to try to take whatever I need from whomever I can. Of course, I’ll have my list of rich folks ready to go so I can tap them first. I’m putting Goldstein at the top of it.

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