Comments on: ClimateGate Goes Back to 1980

By: solar power brisbane

solar power brisbane — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:30:14 +0000

im more interested in saving money then then debating the truth about global warming. Thats wh im encouraging the uptake of solar power.

By: Jantar

Jantar — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:42:53 +0000

crotalus, you are absolutely correct. we must account for the planet’s orbit as well. That orbit is a big player in our climate.

Now, what is it that the earth orbits?

By: Paul Z.

Paul Z. — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:06:28 +0000

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/science/earth/26climate.html?src=me

The Cantwell-Collins plan is almost exactly what Mr. Obama proposed in the campaign and after first taking office — a 100 percent auction of permits and a large tax rebate to the public.

“He called our bill ‘very elegant,’ ” Ms. Cantwell said. “Simplicity and having something people can understand is important.”
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So after getting elected, why is it that Obama is no longer looking at this option seriously, which is a much more taxpayer friendly option? Is it because he and his banker buddies won’t be able to make as much money from gullible taxpayers?

AGW isn’t about saving the environment. It’s all about scaring, extorting, and controlling middle-class taxpayers for the benefit of a few greedy bankers, politicians, and environmental NGOs.

By: crotalus

crotalus — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:51:43 +0000

The sun isn’t the only thing that influences climate.
And no one has claimed CO2 is responsible for Milankovitch cycles. (Attributing it to the sun is only partly accurate. One needs to account for the planet’s orbit as well.)

By: JohnGalt

JohnGalt — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:05:43 +0000

GISS stands for Goddard Institute for Space Studies, part of NASA.

By: James Macdonald

James Macdonald — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:19:10 +0000

Crotalus–
You might be right about Gerlich, but I know Prof. Barrante. Read his new book, “Global Warming for Dim Wits”.It’s all about the historical record and how CO2 can’t be responsible for the periodic 100,000 year spikes in temperature and the nonlinear changes that have been taking place more recently. He presents a thorough discussion of how CO2 and other gases operate. The only plausable explaination for the repeating 100,000 year pattern, is the sun.

By: tiny hope

tiny hope — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:05:27 +0000

And how is a carbon tax (a life giving gas) going to help? Oh yeah help to line the pockets of the elitists all the while controlling us the sheeple! Keep up the great shill work!

By: Ammonite

Ammonite — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:42:51 +0000

It is clear that constructing a global mean temperature across time is quite involved. The data is messy, stations have changed position, instrumentation and measurement time, gone out of existence etc and there are large gaps in coverage. Adding to the complication, the urban heat island effect (UHI) is real and must be adjusted for. So “manipulating” the data is unavoidable in order to achieve a sensible result. Are the manipulations unbiased?

The GISS web site discusses its data sources and algorithms in great detail. Anyone with time and effort can duplicate their approach and decide for themselves if it is fair. For example, they examine the magnitude of UHI using alternate “corrections” for night lights, population and rural stations against making no adjustment. Judge for yourself.

Added to this, the GISS record agrees closely with HadCrut, UAH (satellites) and NCDC. Ask yourself how likely it is that all of these institutions are in on a conspiracy to boost temperature that luckily coincides with melting ice at both ends of the globe, rising ocean heat content and consistent species migrations in both hemispheres?

None of the above points to man as the cause, but when multiple approaches show the ten year average of global temperature consistently rising I know which way I’d bet.

By: crotalus

crotalus — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:56:01 +0000

You’re joking, right?
Gerlich’s “paper” is the laughing stock of the web.

Here’s a handy refutation for you:
http://rabett.blogspot.com/2009/04/end-of-road-thanks-to-everyone-who.html

By: crotalus

crotalus — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:50:03 +0000

Saturated Gassy Argument:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/06/a-saturated-gassy-argument/